Adding FLAC files to Vox only puts them in Playlist view - Completely useless

#4

I'd like to have this functionality and then I will use VOX and not have to use other players. Please can you let me know when the next version is due for release. Thanks.

#5

yes, please add this, VOX is pretty much useless as a standalone app without it.

#6

We've implemented this feature and now it's called Loop for VOX, be sure to find more information here:
https://coppertino.com/loop-for-vox

And feel free to write us back if any questions arise.

#7

So, your solution to being able to have a proper library of my FLAC files, is to make me upload all my files to the cloud? Hmm, I don't think that's a great solution, in fact, it's horrible. Why would I want to do that, if the cloud option was secondary as an offer, that's nice, but this way is all kinds of wrong.

#8

Loop was made especially for lossless formats such as FLAC.

Could you please tell us what exactly is not convenient for you in using cloud for playing your library?

You can set up a free trial for 14 days in the latest version of VOX to test it out.

Looking forward to your reply!

#9

Well, firstly, as i say I don't have an iPhone and can't see a time I'd ever want to stream my FLAC files over the Internet. When I'm listening to music on the move fidelity isn't my primary motivation, speed and convenience is.

What I want is a convenient desktop music player that has a lovely interface that has a Library for my Flac files, basically, I want VOX, exactly how it is but without the subscription. I'll happily pay for the standalone app and I suspect that's how the majority of other people are going to feel about things.

I'm only starting to redigitise my music in a FLAC format as well as occasionally downloading new HD files from places like HD Tracks and Pono- it's already telling me that it's going to take 18 hours to upload my meagre collection, I have over 2,000 albums, I'm never uploading them to the cloud.

Also, I'm confused by some of your articles. When I'm playing files stored in Loop on my desktop (where my original files are) - are they streaming or playing locally?

Sorry, but I just think the explanation of what Loop is, is very ambiguous.

#10

Well said Simon. I agree entirely with all your points, as I find myself in an identical situation.

#11

Hey guys,

Thanks for your thoughts.

Actually they can be both played from cloud and you can as well download them on your Mac.

You can easily test it out and later decide if you want to use it.

Let us know if you have any further question, we would be glad to help you out!

#12

Again, why would I want to do that? They're already on my computer, there is absolutely NO use case scenario where I'd want to download them to my mac. Even if it were on another mac, I'd just copy them across a network. Loop just doesn't make any sense.

Additionally, streaming FLAC files to my phone makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, for example, one album from HD Tracks is 680MB, so if I want to listen to stream it from wherever, that's going to take up a massive chunk of my available phone storage and use up 30% of my data allowance.

Plus, you still haven't said how much it's going to be.

I just don't understand what kind of a meeting took place where anyone thought this would be a good idea, especially coupled with the fact that there's services like Tidal to which I don't have to upload anything at all.

I'm certain I'm not alone, ALL I want is for Vox to be able to act as a library/media player for iTunes AND Flac files. I just can't see why anyone would want the service you're offering as a subscription model.

I wish you luck and of course could be wrong, probably am.

#13

Simon - I agree with you. I have an idea. If you drop your email address here we can discuss.

Greg

#14

Actually, I've just seen how much it is, so at least that's sorted.

#15

Well, it's actually can be hassle to copy all the files from one machine to another and then playing them later even though the network. Price is a $4.99/ month or $49.99/ year.

And thanks for your opinion in any case. That's important for us to improve our services in future.

#16

Yes, saw the price.

It's actually not really a hassle to copy files over at all though I can see how it might be for some.

Additionally, I'm listening to some HD music now, I just signed out of Loop and hey presto, now, I can't even play the files that ARE ON MY COMPUTER. Seriously. What's the thought process behind that?

At the VERY LEAST, make the programme functional as it is with the OPTION to subscribe to loop for cross device play and cloud storage.

Urg,

Oh, and Greg,, there's no way to drop you a PM and I'm not putting my email up here unless you're happy to put yours up.

#17

Hi Simon,

Please try to run the following script:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvx1f6t00kk6ka4/ResetVox.zip?dl=0

That should help, please let us know if it solves your problem.

#18

Simon - Understand and thinking about it I feel the same. If you're on Facebook, you can find me there and I'll accept a friend request.

#19

I agree with both users. The cloud option might be useful to some, but the overheads of downloading tracks as you listen is immense, and is the internet going to work all the time?

Uploading is a waste of time for me, and the best way for me to listen is by computer, with transfer of a few tracks to the mobile device. What we need is a clear place on the iPhone/iPad where files are stored. The iTunes library won't accept FLAC files as iTunes can't play them, so another solution is required.

If you need to attract revenue, why not charge $5 for the app/program after a try before you buy interval? The Loop could be correspondingly cheaper as an upgrade for those who want it.

Please think about this, as it is a deal breaker for me, and I'm sure for a significant number of potential users.

#20

Hey guys,

Thanks for your feedback, we will think about what you've told us.

And feel free to write us back if you'll have any thoughts on how to improve our services.

#21

Interesting discussion of how people are or are not using Vox and Loop.

To the developers: There's a lot of nice marketing copy available, but I had a hard time understanding HOW and WHERE to upload files.

<< A bit of an edit as I use Vox more. >>

With Vox 2.5 it's easier to find Loop (second icon on the left next to playlists) and you can drag new files to import into Loop. From what I can tell the upload isn't too bad -- depending of course on your connection. As an option under Loop is iTunes, so you can connect music in iTunes to Vox/Loop.

From what I can tell the iTunes connection only really works at the Desk Vox level. I don't see music connected in Vox via iTunes. At the iPhone, I see music uploaded to Loop. It would be nice if the iTunes music is also available on the iPhone. Perhaps the developers could add an option to Copy iTunes Music to Loop (or a select option for individual albums you want copied? Otherwise, I guess I need to go into my iTunes Library and manually upload to Loop. Seems like wasted time. I prefer the higher quality FLAC files, so I'd listen to them first anyway.

The view is by album so far. Would be nice to have some options to organize music on Loop, at least by artist, then album. It can get pretty messy.

I won't mind paying a reasonable flat fee if I can upload FLACs I want to listen to and access them on any device (will there be an iPad version of Vox? I didn't look to see it's universal.) When I'm at home or at the coffee shop or a place with good wifi, carrier charges are not an issue. When away from wifi, yes they are -- although I am grandfathered in to unlimited data.

It seems to me that Vox is on to something but everything still needs work. I just hope they continue to develop and listen to their users. As it stands now I won't renew Music Match and may even drop a streaming service. In the end, I like access to all sorts of music, but that costs me at least $100 a year. I already have a great digital music collection, the problem has been access to it on different devices and remotely. If Vox can solve this for $50 a year, I'm in.

We'll see. I have 13 more days to experiment.

#22

I am finding it rather frustrating that Loop is the only option for a library for my flac albums. I don't need the cloud option and kinda resent the fact that I am being, essentially, charged for a Library option in VOX. I get the charge is most likely for the cloud storage, etc., but I just want it for the interface, plain and simple. I don't want to have to create a bunch of individual playlists/collections for my flac albums. Right now, the only way to actually get a library is to subscribe to Loop. I don't care about the upload or data usage, that's all fine, but I don't want it, and I definitely don't want to pay $50 a year for a library. It should be a basic part of the program and payment for cloud usage should be an option. I'm using VOX for now, but looking for another option unless they offer a free library interface for my desktop.

#23

I agree with you Joe.

Except, the upload and data usage is a huge deal for me. I have a pretty massive library of FLAC files, and I tried uploading a few of them to Loop and found it incredibly slow. This is probably due to both my internet connection (I live in a rural area) and Loop itself.

I have no use for Loop. Vox advertises itself as a FLAC oriented media player, that's why I use it. It really sucks that I can't use the FLAC library function.